How To Buy Cellphones – Part 2

Author xlxmarketing 23.10.2009. | 20:46

Nokia N95 vs Odyssey

By Michael Wong

  • If you haven’t already, please read part 1 of this series, you’ll find it here:

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So after two months of indecision, I finally bought my new phone yesterday – Chinavasion’s
CVDQ-M56, AKA the WiFi Odyssey.

I know what some of you are thinking. “Sure Michael, you’re just trying to promote your company’s products!!!!”

That’s not strictly true.

Up to a week ago, it was down to the Odyssey and the Nokia N95.

nokia-n95CVDQ-M56

In my first blog post I wrote about how I love sliders. I still do.

But here’s the problem. Despite the N95 being so old (it’s almost 4 years old), it’s still selling for roughly $350 US here.

The Odyssey sells for $120 US.

However, like I said in my first blog the price isn’t everything.

So, to sum up the phone I am looking for has:

  • Quad Band
  • Wi-Fi
  • Dual SIM
  • Touchscreen
  • A Media Player
  • A Candybar form factor (or design)

And let’s not forget it also looks cool or 1337

The N95 doesn’t have dual SIM. I’ve slowly grown tired of switching SIM cards all the time as I travel back and forth between Shenzhen and Hong Kong.

CVDQ-M56

The Odyssey M56 has a larger touch screen than the N95 (3 inches vs 2.78 inches”) and I love my Odyssey because it’s sexy.

There I said it, I’m a man with a sexy phone.

Now, for the record, the iPhone is not sexy.

It’s too wide. It feels like I’m holding a piece of toast or a Poptart in my hand.

itoast

mmmmm iToast, goes great with bacon

Yummy to eat, but sucky to hold. It’s far too wide.

But the Odyssey – it’s what I’d call the Goldilocks shape.

It’s not too wide, it’s not to thin, It’s just right.

It has a black and chrome color scheme. It has smooth lines. It is glossy and has rounded corners.

It’s seductive.

Another thing that I look for in a phone is the feel.

The Odyssey has the right weight. It feels solid in your hands, but it’s not too heavy.

In contrast, when you put the N95 in your pocket it feels like it’s going to pull your pants down!

The M56 has three nicely sized buttons on the front.

All three are large enough to be pressed comfortably, they feel solid, and that’s important.

It’s like the difference between a crappy keyboard and the kind that makes you want to write Hamlet or Othello.

And then there’s the details.

I love my Odyssey because of the little things.

One of the little things is that I can use a 2.5 mm headphone jack or the micro USB jack when I’m listening to MP3s.

This is important because as a rule earphones with micro USB connectors suck!

I love the fact that the M56 Odyssey has it’s own answering machine.

Yeah, a built-in answering machine! Now I don’t have to pay eight dollars a month for a virtual service.

The call comes through and if I don’t answer it, my prerecorded MP3 file begins to play.

“Hi, it’s Michael, SPEAK!”

I can specify the length of the message my caller can leave and my voicemail inbox only gets full when my 4GB microSD card is full. (The Odyssey comes with a free 2GB micro SD card, but I’m a strong believer in more is more.)

I love the accelerator function on my Odyssey. I love the ability to add java apps (yes I know you can do this on the N95, but still, the M56 is so much cheaper).

CVDQ-M56

I’ve been able to update my phone with Gizmo5 which is a damn good VOIP platform in its own right. And through its OPENSKY alliance I also get access to Skype.

twim

I’ve been able to install all sorts of java games and here’s a great one – I recently downloaded Twim for Java which is a Twitter client. Twim isn’t as powerful as Tweetdeck for example, but then again it gets my tweets out there.

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I love the fact that I can download ebooks from places like gutenberg.org or bartleby.com and read them on the Odyssey.

It lets me control the font size, line or page scrolling, and even has a feature when the text scrolls on its own at a speed I choose.

I’m pretty happy with my Odyssey phone but I’m usually a happy person.

Because I believe in two vital ingredients for happiness:

  1. Concentrate on what you have and not on what you don’t.
  2. Manage your expectations

The Odyssey is a great quad band world phone with dual SIM and dual standby, WIFI, TV and radio, a digital still and video camera, an MP3/MP4 player and PDA functionality.

CVDQ-M56

I get two lithium-ion batteries and a free 2GB microSD card thrown in. All at almost a third of what an equivalent Nokia would cost.

Sure the user manual is written in bad English, but that forced me to get to know my phone intimately.

So that’s what I think of the Odyssey, now it’s your time to chime in. If you own this awesome phone leave a comment below to let us know what you think.

And if you don’t check out the Odyssey now. It doesn’t matter if you buy it to resell, buy it for a friend or buy it for yourself.

You won’t regret it.

Author xlxmarketing 23.10.2009. | 20:46
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  1. Ru U October 23, 23:56

    Hmm… That’s great that you listed all the positives in this glowing review, but a few of us would like to know the negatives of the phone also.

    I dont have this phone but I have the Voyager, and I jut ordered the Thunder. Both of these phones are virtually the same with this phone minus that the Voyager doesnt include the headphone port 3.5mm variety.

    So basically, I actually really like my phone the (Voyager) it is actually pretty good once I got it set up, the only downsides I had was the phone wasnt as configurable as I liked. I couldnt set the messages ringtone to my personal music, I couldnt change my wallpaper to a personal picture, and also I couldnt figure out a way for the phone to alert me with a intermittent beep if I missed a call or message. These are all I suppose minor issues with the phone’s OS.

    So basically, since I have the Thunder on my way I would like to know does the phone use the same OS as the Voyager/Oddessey? If, so have these issues been resolved?

    Also, do you plan on making Android OS based phones? Thanks, if this is posted and questions are answered?

  2. Michael Wong October 26, 11:10

    @Ru U

    Hmm… That’s great that you listed all the positives in this glowing review, but a few of us would like to know the negatives of the phone also.

    I understand your position, but what company brags about the negatives. Nokia in reference to Iran controversy? Apple over exploding batteries? Having said that, I wish the Odyssey had a real keyboard like the Blackberry or Nokia E71. But then again, the price would be much more…also many people wish these smartphones have higher battery times…battery life can be extended by turning off Bluetooth and WIFI. Google it, these two issues significantly drain battery times not just for these phones, but all name brands phones. Another thing I wish for with the Odyssey phone is sync/contact software. My workaround is to use a SIM card reader/writer.

    I don’t have this phone but I have the Voyager, and I jut ordered the Thunder. Both of these phones are virtually the same with this phone minus that the Voyager doesnt include the headphone port 3.5mm variety.

    Yes, same firmware and chipset. Also headphone port is 2.5mm not 3.5mm 🙂

    So basically, I actually really like my phone the (Voyager) it is actually pretty good once I got it set up, the only downsides I had was the phone wasnt as configurable as I liked. I couldnt set the messages ringtone to my personal music, I couldnt change my wallpaper to a personal picture, and also I couldnt figure out a way for the phone to alert me with a intermittent beep if I missed a call or message. These are all I suppose minor issues with the phone’s OS.

    Click on FILE, find your MP3, it will give you the option to use as ringtone. As for wallpaper? Same thing, FILE, find your jpeg and set it as wallpaper. As for missed messages or call, hmm, while no beep it should display a message that you’ve missed a call or message. Alternatively, set up the in-phone answering machine to take care of missed messages. Or give people your phone email ie cellphone#@cellphoneprovider.com

    So basically, since I have the Thunder on my way I would like to know does the phone use the same OS as the Voyager/Oddessey? If, so have these issues been resolved?

    Yes, same OS. It is a Chinese made OS.

    Also, do you plan on making Android OS based phones? Thanks, if this is posted and questions are answered?

    I expect in a couple of weeks, you’ll see an Android phone on our pages. Hint, hint. I am very excited. I am actively testing it and it won’t be released until we can be sure it is problem-free.

  3. sean October 27, 20:06

    Can you answer these questions for me regarding the odyssey, is it easy to write a text message without the use of the stylus?
    If you flip the phone over does it give you a landscape view of the QWERTY ketyboard?
    Also is the font size nice and clear? I bought a nokia phone “made in china” and the font was so small it started hurting me eyes?

  4. Sean October 28, 23:33

    Thanks Gareth, I’ve decided to buy the Thunder Quadband, it has the similar features to the odyssey, but slightly smaller. I hope it works out ok…

  5. Ru U October 30, 09:45

    Thanks again, Sean for your honesty. Really, that’s all I ask for, I wish the main site was like this.

    Also, I am excited about an Android based phone. I’ve seen the General Mobile DSTL1 and its specs are good, but I know that Chinavasion and its manufacturers can do better.

    Also, for anyone else reading the Thunder is great, better design, same OS as Voyager, but better looks.

    Speaking of which do you know the name of the OS that’s on the Thunder/Voyager as I would like to see if I can change things around. Thanks again.

  6. Jacqueline Lam November 1, 01:32

    I would like to know what cellular services you all have with these dual/quad cell phones?

    Do you still get the same quality of service with a GSM phone?

    Thanks

  7. Aleksey November 1, 02:18

    Tell me please, Odyssey could play AVI files?

  8. Amadeu Martins November 3, 03:08

    Gostaria de saber como posso instalar jogos neste celular.
    Obrigado

  9. Diesel November 4, 06:13

    Hi Michael and others! Great posts (both of them). I also bought a chinavasion phone 6 months ago, and I’m satisfied with it. If I may, here are my pros, cons and things it would also be great to have. It would be really great if the cons would improve and new stuff could be integrated…

    Some of my thoughts I’ve also sent to chinavasion, unfortunately no answer yet (though products are improving in sensible time intervals)

    Pros:
    – price (solid pro)
    – dual sim
    – generally lots of features (although by that time there were no WiFi phones on chinavasion)

    Cons: (let me focus on these; if all of them were to be improved, you’d probably want to marry this phone instead of the new HTC – which does rock, indeed 😀 )
    – the connectors on the phone for the USB cable and audio earpieces are non-standard. this is a major problem as there is no way to get replacements here in Europe (now I’ve learned my lesson and will order several spare parts with my future orders). By looking into the connector I’ve seen that it most likely uses the same protocol as the MiniUSB. I really suggest changing it by passing to a common protocol
    – the baterry life is a problem. You have to charge it up every day, even if you don’t use anything except phone calls. Yes, it is a problem for all phones, but for these it seems to be a larger problem than for others.
    – the SAR value is never mentioned anywhere. I suspect it’s huge (3-5) while the limit is around 1 in Europe. Increase in SAR is undesrstandable if you are using dual sim open, but it’s not funny to have headaches every day you spend more than 1 hour on your phone… There’s got to be something that can be done about this…
    – there is no true complete way to connect the phone to the computer. yes, you can choose from webcam, mass storage, etc but what I would advise is a software that can perform several operations like synchronizations, access to the phone software, etc (see Nokia communication centre)
    – some parts of the software are faulty. just a small example I remember: when trying to connect through bluetooth FTP to another device and copy a picture (or any file), there is a bug in the software that you can only save it to the internal memory, which is very small. If you try to save it to the SD card it just gives an error and fails; sometimes the whole phone resets itself, for example after saving some changed properties of the camera (like resolution) when trying to take a picture it just resets (for no reason). changes are saved and after that you can work with it, but the reset is stupid
    – not enough space for custom ringtones, wallpapers, etc (not in the sense of storage, but in the sense of modifiable list of such ringtones, etc). you have 25 songs for ringtones out of which 20 are fixed (and they are some lousy midi sounds) while only 5 can be selected as mp3’s (which is not enough, at least for me). normal phones have deletable initial ringtones or at least several more customizable space; some wallpapers and other customizations seem to restore themselves to the original with apparently no real reason
    – FM radio works only with earpieces on. this restriction is not necessary (mp3 playing is allowed on speakers, why shouldn’t FM radio be also?)
    – camera resolution: you probably know better than I do. No one needs 5MP on a phone, but 640×480 is a shame. All manufacturers have at least 2MP on phones that are even slimmer than these… If this is solved, then also video recording will improve.
    – keyboards are awful. there’s got to be a way to make larger keyboards on landscape views. and there’s another thing: when switching from “abc” writing to “123” you do it in one click. but when trying to switch back, it takes a lot of steps, you have to go though all the sequence of available keyboards based on languages: de-DE-fr-FR-es-ES-pt-PT-en which is not very nice. The software should support the saving of a default (preferred) language and allow switches only among en-EN-123 if “en” is the preferred one.

    Things that would make it ROCK:
    – DVB-T digital television instead of analog. Not only that analog is disappearing, but a DVB-T receiver is now of the size of a very small memory stick
    – somewhat more CPU and/or RAM, but not necessarily a lot more
    – a true platform for supporting develop-able applications (J2ME / Symbian / Win Mobile etc)
    – more protocols for 3G / Data. I hate large bills also, but sometimes it just saves your ass… these phones don’t seem to know HSDPA, some of them not even 3G.
    – integrated compass and GPS

    Hope you will answer, I’m curious on how things evolve with the new products at Chinavasion. I suspect that soon you will be able to build products that will compete with expensive brands at all categories. And that’s what I like about you, guys.

    Thanks and all the best 🙂

  10. Sean November 4, 07:44

    I like the ‘pinch’ gesture on the iPhone for zooming into/out of a webpage – can the Odyssey do this? Thanks.

  11. Magurano Pompeo November 4, 20:18

    Va benissimo tutto cio che avete scritto,ma che me ne faccio di un telefonino il quale la batteria dopo al massimo 30 ore e´scarica ?

  12. Michael Wong November 6, 14:27

    @Diesel

    Wow, thanks for the wonderful and thorough and objective phone review.

    – the connectors on the phone for the USB cable and audio earpieces are non-standard. this is a major problem as there is no way to get replacements here in Europe (now I’ve learned my lesson and will order several spare parts with my future orders). By looking into the connector I’ve seen that it most likely uses the same protocol as the MiniUSB. I really suggest changing it by passing to a common protocol

    >>Good point. We’re seeing this a lot with the major manufacturers here in China. Basically China has pretty well mandated compliance to the eventual one connector initiative set for (2012 I think?). MicroUSB will be the connector of choice for future phones. Europe? Yes I’m sorry about this. Basically Nokia’s dominant position there, along with Philips, LG, Siemens, Sony Ericsson, (am I missing any?) will probably delay Europe’s adopting one common connector type. 🙁

    – the battery life is a problem. You have to charge it up every day, even if you don’t use anything except phone calls. Yes, it is a problem for all phones, but for these it seems to be a larger problem than for others.

    >>To be fair, this is a problem for all phones which operate what we like to call in the phone industry the holy trinity of battery drainers, namely WIFI, GPS, and BLUETOOTH. For much improved battery performance, please turn them all off if you’re not using them. NOTE: Odyssey does not have GPS, but I would love it if someone could tell me a way to get GPS on the phone. 😉

    – the SAR value is never mentioned anywhere. I suspect it’s huge (3-5) while the limit is around 1 in Europe. Increase in SAR is understandable if you are using dual sim open, but it’s not funny to have headaches every day you spend more than 1 hour on your phone… There’s got to be something that can be done about this…

    >>Yes SARs is a problem. Too many people die from this flu. Oh you mean SAR not SARS. Sorry to make light of the situation. It costs a lot of money to perform SAR tests which would be passed back to the consumer. Still, yes I would like to know and yes I think it might be high. Bluetooth headset anyone?

    – there is no true complete way to connect the phone to the computer. yes, you can choose from webcam, mass storage, etc but what I would advise is a software that can perform several operations like synchronizations, access to the phone software, etc (see Nokia communication centre)

    >>That’s not fair. That’s comparing a USD125 phone with a USD500 phone. Having said that, I have found a way to sync my contacts. I use a SIM card reader. I also hack the Vcard files so I can update my tasks on my computer and transfer them to the phone. But yes I know what you’re speaking of. It would be nice to sync the calendar. Hmm I wonder if I can do it with Bluetooth…I’ll be back with my findings.

    – some parts of the software are faulty. just a small example I remember: when trying to connect through bluetooth FTP to another device and copy a picture (or any file), there is a bug in the software that you can only save it to the internal memory, which is very small. If you try to save it to the SD card it just gives an error and fails; sometimes the whole phone resets itself, for example after saving some changed properties of the camera (like resolution) when trying to take a picture it just resets (for no reason). changes are saved and after that you can work with it, but the reset is stupid

    >>Hmm that’s not good. If it continues, please send us a ticket. My thinking is that the phone was never meant for peer to peer Bluetooth transfer even though, Bluetooth does indeed do that. How odd.

    – not enough space for custom ringtones, wallpapers, etc (not in the sense of storage, but in the sense of modifiable list of such ringtones, etc). you have 25 songs for ringtones out of which 20 are fixed (and they are some lousy midi sounds) while only 5 can be selected as mp3’s (which is not enough, at least for me). normal phones have deletable initial ringtones or at least several more customizable space; some wallpapers and other customizations seem to restore themselves to the original with apparently no real reason

    >>I understand. I love my music. I use MISSY ELLIOT “Get Your Freak On!” as my ringtone. 🙂

    – FM radio works only with earpieces on. this restriction is not necessary (mp3 playing is allowed on speakers, why shouldn’t FM radio be also?)

    >>Earpieces are for listening and antenna purposes.

    – keyboards are awful. there’s got to be a way to make larger keyboards on landscape views. and there’s another thing: when switching from “abc” writing to “123? you do it in one click. but when trying to switch back, it takes a lot of steps, you have to go though all the sequence of available keyboards based on languages: de-DE-fr-FR-es-ES-pt-PT-en which is not very nice. The software should support the saving of a default (preferred) language and allow switches only among en-EN-123 if “en” is the preferred one.

    >>Hmm? Toggling back and forth, same buttons. It shouldn’t take those extra steps. Send a product question ticket to support with the subject line ‘Attn Michael’ you’re still have problems. Basically when you’re numbering, there’s a ABC button and when you’re lettering, there’s a 123 button. Maybe I’m misunderstanding…

    Things that would make it ROCK:
    – DVB-T digital television instead of analog. Not only that analog is disappearing, but a DVB-T receiver is now of the size of a very small memory stick

    >>That is possible but it would add more to the price then our people thought customers were willing to pay.

    – somewhat more CPU and/or RAM, but not necessarily a lot more

    >>I agree.

    – a true platform for supporting develop-able applications (J2ME / Symbian / Win Mobile etc)

    >>Aw we have a phone like that, it’s selling for close to USD300. But I understand, more power would be nice. FYI, this phone is our best selling phone ever because I think we reach the sweet price point on this. Essentially, everyone loves China phones because they’re inexpensive and feature laden. When the price creeps up, we start treading onto Nokia territory.

    – more protocols for 3G / Data. I hate large bills also, but sometimes it just saves your ass… these phones don’t seem to know HSDPA, some of them not even 3G. Integrated compass and GPS

    >>In the months ahead my friend. It will be a sweet 2010 for Chinavasion phone fans.

    Hope you will answer, I’m curious on how things evolve with the new products at Chinavasion. I suspect that soon you will be able to build products that will compete with expensive brands at all categories. And that’s what I like about you, guys.

    >>Thank you for supporting Chinavasion.

  13. aaron November 6, 15:56

    Hi,
    I previously bought a song a168 and didn’t have predictive text t9 with the phone, does the odyssey have t9 predictive text so that if u manually put in a word or write with the stylus does it predict the rest of the word?? it was a downpoint on the other phone and made messaging a labor intensive process!

  14. Aaron November 7, 15:12

    I was also wondering about battery life and microphone durability. On the prior phone the microphone was soft and was the first thing to die. How long does the battery typically last when using both sims. What is the difference between the odyssey and thunder?

    Regards once again,

    Aaron

  15. Barry November 11, 09:26

    Hi Michael,

    I’d also like to know what the differences are between the Odyssey and the Thunder. I have similar criteria to yours when looking for phones – which do you like better, the Odyssey or Thunder?

    Thanks,

    Barry

  16. Barry November 11, 09:47

    Also, does either phone support flash websites like YouTube?

  17. Brendon November 16, 05:45

    is chinainvasion going to get some phone like the GOOGLE G1 Android Touchscreen with a qwerty keyboard. i seen one of them but that one doesnt look very appealing.

    Cheers

  18. Casper November 18, 03:35

    Hello Chinavasion,

    I’ve got a few questions regarding the Odyssey and the Thunder mobile phone.
    I’m also wondering the differences between the Odyssey and the Thunder.

    Is it really true that the Odyssey has a 1200mAh Rechargeable Battery? The Thunder has a 2800mAh Rechargeable Battery, which is a big difference. Also looking through the approximately playing time each device has, it’s remarkably almost the same.

    Does the Odyssey support the Dutch language, like the Thunder does? I’m asking this, because they are using the same OS, but it’s not mentioned in the specifications for the Odyssey.

    Is the stylus component part of the Thunder phone (thus is the stylus integrated into the phone), like the stylus is for the Odyssey?

    Is the Thunder faster than the Odyssey regarding to processor capability? I’m asking this, because the Thunder has a more powerfull battery than the Odyssey, but got the same battery lifetime when using.

    Thanks in advance.

    Kind regards,
    Casper

  19. ilario November 19, 01:57

    for me this phone is very good and it price is very very good.

    wonderful display, very large and bright, have a lot of function.

    but….
    it isn’t possible remove the factory built in wallpaper and midi files ;
    isn’t possible add to an incoming call a picture off the caller (jpg or similar)

    the virtual keyboard is too small for the use without the stylus and is not possible use it in landscape mode.

    is not possible to display the name of the gsm operator (for example wind or vodafone) but only the signal strengh.

    for same application (the automatic answer for example) a shortcut is not possible and the activation and deactivaction is too long .

    an upgrade of the firmware is possible?

    best regards, ilario

  20. Diesel November 19, 02:46

    Hello Michael, and thanks for your reply!

    I won’t submit tickets as it doesn’t really matter now. I’m just happy to tell you what I’ve found while testing the phone. But I think some additional info I have can help.

    About the thing in switching keyboards. It’s like I said. when in abc you have options for capitals ABC and back, but the first time you enter 123 your option abc actually turns into the list of languages I said about.

    Also, I forgot to mention. With my phone I specifically bought two SIM-card readers from you as I thought this would forever solve the issue of entering the mobile phone configurations, just as you supposed. Now I’m an IT guy also and it doesn’t take me much to see that SIM cards actually communicate in a legacy COM-port style with a 9600/57600 BAUD rate just as old cables with RS232 did. Everything fine up to here. Now problems:
    – the driver provided is actually the same driver as for a transitional RS232-to-USB connector, manufactured by the company called Prolific from Taiwan, the only guys who seemed to give a damn about legacy connections. And it actually works, you can plug RS232 through USB and give legacy commands, just like you can stick your SIM card in the reader and plug it in a USB. Don’t be too happy that soon: it works only once every 10 tries, and all the other 9 it crashes your computer. (If you want a guaranteed windows bluescreen crash just do this. Crash is even more severe if behind a USB hub, also :)) )
    – upon entering on the SIM using the software provided by you, everything is fine except you can only see the messages and nothing else (I refer to metadata, like timestamps, centre number, etc)

    This is basically what I was referring to when saying that there is no “real” connectivity. One can just want to “download” the sms messages but with full content, including metadata (file with .vmg excension). I was able to do that with a Nokia using the same COM connection through USB (no need to remove SIM from phone) and the same driver from Prolific, but with a different software. I guess the key is in that software (yours is called SIM Editor 9.0) and it could be improved. And what I was saying, it would be nice to do this over the USB cable without having to remove the SIM.

    And I mean what I say: the difference is in the software. You were mentioning that this difference is reflected in the prices. Nokia’s software is just a small crap shit. Let me believe that in the 21th Century when software is mostly for free, the price differences can only be made by hardware stuff. So I think improving that software will solve everything without having to increase prices.

    About GPS: it also communicates over COM connections, with a typical BAUD rate of 4800 or 9600. This is easy to do. You just need a receiver and I’m sure they are nowadays very small and a way to integrate the COM connection to your microprocessor.

    I’m looking forward to the new products, especially in mobile phones!

    Keep in touch!

  21. Michael Wong November 19, 11:05

    @Diesel

    About the thing in switching keyboards. It’s like I said. when in abc you have options for capitals ABC and back, but the first time you enter 123 your option abc actually turns into the list of languages I said about.

    >>Oh I understand now. Sorry about this one. Mine does not. If you’re into voiding your warranty, gsmhosting.com is a great site for hacking your firmware. It helps if you have the tools though. In China, it’s easy for me to buy a spider or infinity box…

    Also, I forgot to mention. With my phone I specifically bought two SIM-card readers from you as I thought this would forever solve the issue of entering the mobile phone configurations, just as you supposed. Now I’m an IT guy also and it doesn’t take me much to see that SIM cards actually communicate in a legacy COM-port style with a 9600/57600 BAUD rate just as old cables with RS232 did. Everything fine up to here. Now problems:
    – the driver provided is actually the same driver as for a transitional RS232-to-USB connector, manufactured by the company called Prolific from Taiwan, the only guys who seemed to give a damn about legacy connections. And it actually works, you can plug RS232 through USB and give legacy commands, just like you can stick your SIM card in the reader and plug it in a USB. Don’t be too happy that soon: it works only once every 10 tries, and all the other 9 it crashes your computer. (If you want a guaranteed windows bluescreen crash just do this. Crash is even more severe if behind a USB hub, also 🙂 ) )
    – upon entering on the SIM using the software provided by you, everything is fine except you can only see the messages and nothing else (I refer to metadata, like timestamps, centre number, etc)

    This is basically what I was referring to when saying that there is no “real” connectivity. One can just want to “download” the sms messages but with full content, including metadata (file with .vmg excension). I was able to do that with a Nokia using the same COM connection through USB (no need to remove SIM from phone) and the same driver from Prolific, but with a different software. I guess the key is in that software (yours is called SIM Editor 9.0) and it could be improved. And what I was saying, it would be nice to do this over the USB cable without having to remove the SIM.

    And I mean what I say: the difference is in the software. You were mentioning that this difference is reflected in the prices. Nokia’s software is just a small crap shit. Let me believe that in the 21th Century when software is mostly for free, the price differences can only be made by hardware stuff. So I think improving that software will solve everything without having to increase prices.

    >>Agreed. Oh sorry I meant hardware, not software. MY bad. BTW–this is the SIM reader I used. Pretty good for updating the contact list. I basically enter my contacts in Excel with name and number columns only and the sync is pretty good.

    Don’t really download my SMS messages.

    We use FETION in China which is a China Mobile SMS and chat program. I also use mynumber@139.com for email to SMS. This is also free. I forward all my gmails to this email and it shows up as a SMS. Helps when you have free to receive SMS package like I have though. Sorry to go off topic, but since we’re sharing hacks…

    About GPS: it also communicates over COM connections, with a typical BAUD rate of 4800 or 9600. This is easy to do. You just need a receiver and I’m sure they are nowadays very small and a way to integrate the COM connection to your microprocessor.

    >>GPS????? You managed to get GPS going? Or do you mean GPRS?

    I’m looking forward to the new products, especially in mobile phones!

    >>Everyone is going to be amazed with the new phones we’re coming out with. To use the slang, they’re going to be SICK! Expect an Android phone from us in the near future. A month or so. Also just tested and launched M79 codename “Amigo”. It’s like Odyssey but with a Nokia E71 qwerty keyboard. Next buy for me. 🙂

  22. Jason November 19, 14:39

    Hi, you mentioned you are testing an android phone? Any word on when it will be available ? I’m hoping to find a nice touch screen quad band with wifi that runs on android.

  23. ilario November 20, 01:24

    hi Gareth, thank for you for the very fast reply .Today my phone charger is expired ( why? i don’t knovw the reason) and i buy another usb charger. For the other question ì dont’want to remove the strengh bar, but i wan to to display the gsm operator’s name if possible.Another question: can i configure the GPRS for use with my gsm operator (wind italy) ? I think is not possible.Tank for your interest, regards, Ilario

  24. Casper November 20, 04:58

    Hello people of Chinavasion,

    Could you please answer my questions at comment 10041 (18th November, 2009 at 3:35 am)?

    Thanks in advance.

    Kind regards,
    Casper

  25. Peter November 23, 17:41

    Strange that I haven’t seen any questions or comments about the camera. In the specifications it says the camera can do 640 by 480, or smaller, but on the phone it says “8.0 MEGR” and the picture resolution goes up to 1600 by 1200. So what resolution is it really?

  26. Ru U November 27, 02:13

    Man this particular blog post has ballooned/expanded with comments. Perhaps you guys should have a feedback forum?

  27. Nap Trono November 28, 12:45

    Hi Michael. I am deciding which one to buy – the Odyssey or the Beatle? From what I’ve read – they are almost the same but I also read the Beatle can read AVI files while the Odyssey can’t. And the Beatle has more PDA tools.

    I know you purchased the Odyssey, does that mean Odyssey’s better than the Beatle? Would you also recommend the Beatle?

    Thanks in advance for your reply.

    Nap Trono

  28. Fred December 1, 03:15

    Hi! Why can`t you put in the letters “Æ, Ø, Å” for your Scandinavian cusomers. Easy peasy isn`t it? I have just ordered the Odyssey, and wonder how to write on Norwegian on it. I don`t need the T9, just the letters in the spesial letter menu.

    Tnx

  29. Eric December 9, 03:52

    Just got the phone yesterday and don’t have a SIM card. As far as WIFI goes it connects and can surf, but it cannot play a youtube video or music off of any web pages, most pages won’t load due to “insufficient memory”. Gizmo5 will not work either…Any input? Also I can’t save contacts into a microSD or transfer files to the MicroSD from my computer…is this all SIM card related? Thanks

  30. skoda December 15, 08:24

    Hi got the Odyssey today & am hoping that someone can tell me how to get Youtube to work,i.e how to get the vids to stream and play audio just like Eric’s dilemma.
    Cheers Skoda..

  31. skoda December 15, 19:46

    Hi Gareth
    I thaught youtube vids were FLV files & the ODD plays FLVs,is there really no way around this,maybe upgrading the mini Opera or Safari or something, before I top myself.
    Cheers Skoda

  32. skoda December 15, 20:01

    Hi again,
    does any know a phone maybe the Thunder? that can stream youtube video & audio.
    Skoda

  33. LAI CHUN PONG December 15, 22:56

    hi,
    i want to know why the mobie cant play the video in the youtube?
    It can use the software to support watch video in wifi?

  34. LAI CHUN PONG December 16, 15:58

    oh….i using Odyssey – WiFi Quadband Dual-SIM Cellphone w/ 3 Inch Touchscreen…….
    how about Thunder – Quadband Dual SIM Wifi Touchscreen Worldphone?
    this phone (Thunder) can watch video in the youtube or other video web?

    Also,
    i want to know the phone how to Clear Memory ?
    because the problem always appear when using wifi go to Internet or play java games …….

  35. Tim December 25, 03:55

    I’m trying to use it as a webcam, but Windows 7 doesn’t detect a driver.
    Do you have any suggestions?
    Thanks

  36. m3n9 January 3, 02:16

    dear Tim…
    windows 7 not stable yet.. that why doesn’t detect a driver…

  37. JP January 5, 21:46

    hi. I recently purchased the odyssey phone, overall its a good phone, but it does have some annoying issues, besides what other people already said:
    -most java apps and games simply dont work, or the virtual keypad is borked, doesnt even appear on screen thus making it impossible to play
    -low earphone quality and volume, and volume controls on earphone dont work
    -cant run java or play games at the same time im listening to music
    -weak stylus pen
    -custom wallpaper ramdomly resets to default
    is there any way to fiddle around the OS?

    besides those issues, i think its a good phone especially for the price and funcionalities, its my first touchscreen so I cant compare much.
    Greetings from Portugal

  38. Rue January 6, 05:38

    Windows 7 is stable, Windows 7 actually comes with more drivers than XP or Vista preloaded. It may be something with either his device or he is just too lazy to look up for the drivers.

  39. Aleh January 19, 10:01

    What kind soft need for flash and backup firmware for Odyssey?
    Odyssey firmware out of keeping for manual.
    Please,reply to me.
    Thanks

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